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Dutch & Dutch 8c stand-mount loudspeaker

Dutch & Dutch 8c stand-mount loudspeaker

DSP in active speakers is not a new thing, but arguably until recently, it is not a technology that has realised its full potential. This was proved convincingly by the Kii Three that I wrote about in issue 162: a compact active digital design that combats room problems with a clever bass-cancellation system. So when I heard about Dutch & Dutch’s similarly DSP-driven design the 8c I was certainly interested, a lot more perhaps that would have been the case BK (Before Kii). And that’s not all that’s interesting about this model, as the technology behind the driver array – there are two bass units in the back of the box and a shallow, yet wide waveguide on the tweeter – is based on research done by Harry F Olson at RCA Labs in the early 1970s. Olson was trying to create a loudspeaker that mimics the behaviour of a cardioid microphone. That is a speaker that produces a cardioid dispersion pattern to minimise the effect of reflections from room boundaries. It’s the sort of thing that is very hard to create using trial and error but, with the computer modelling that Dutch & Dutch uses, becomes a whole lot more do-able. Dutch & Dutch manages to achieve around 20dB of rearward rejection, compared to 10dB of its main rivals. The first speakers that the company built were for the pro audio market under the Pro Fidelity System brand, but when this led to the 8c they decided to develop a speaker for home users.

The way that the Dutch & Dutch 8c uses the rear wall is inspired by Roy Allison’s work at Acoustic Research and especially the work performed by Dr Floyd Toole and Sean Olive at the National Research Council of Canada (and later for Harman Audio) in the 1990s. This approach integrates the room into the way the sound projects rather than trying to minimise it by placing speakers away from walls. Dutch & Dutch recommends you place this fairly substantial stand-mount between 10-50cm away from the rear wall, which seems very close and even more so when you see that there are two decent size bass units in the back. The cardioid element is provided by the way that the midrange driver’s rearward output is radiated through vents in either side of the box in anti-phase, the idea being that when the signal from the front of the driver turns the corner it is acoustically cancelled out. You can see why this technology required several generations of engineers to achieve when you consider just how radical this idea is.

Inside the solid oak cabinet of the 8c is 1000 Watts of power for the drivers which breaks down to 250W apiece for tweeter and midrange and 500W across the two bass drivers. The latter are eight-inch metal cone types that inhabit a sealed part of the cabinet and sit above a connection array that allows for balanced analogue or AES/EBU digital connection alongside an RJ45 port for a networked setup. You can, therefore, connect the speaker to an analogue preamplifier or a digital source such as a streamer or CD player. In the latter situation, the volume can be adjusted with an online app called Lanspeaker, which allows for full set up of this loudspeaker. There is another setup option on top of these which takes advantage of the 8c’s forthcoming Roon endpoint capabilities. Connect both speakers to your router or network switch and it’s possible to select them as Roon endpoints and send the signal directly from your library with no need for a DAC or preamplifier as both are built into the speaker. 

The power of DSP in this design is remarkable, allowing parametric EQ set up with remarkable precision and ease. When Ultimate Stream brought them down we put them at the recommended distance from the wall and used third party software (REW’s room EQ wizard) to measure the response at the listening position using a microphone plugged into a laptop. This shows where the peaks and troughs in the response are and by making a note of them you can adjust the response in Lanspeaker to produce a remarkably flat in-room result. The worse the acoustic character of the room, the greater the potential the system has to create an even result; fortunately the room I use is very even right down into the bass, but it was still possible to iron out a few dips and peaks by this method. 


The first step was to try and set up the 8c with Roon – a process that was undermined by the fact that the Roon update was not official at the time and the pair supplied were not at the appropriate firmware level. When those issues were fixed, things got very interesting indeed albeit the first track played revealed a strange phasiness between channels with the image wandering around in a disorientating fashion. I later had Dutch & Dutch investigate this and found a bug in the system that should be corrected by the time this goes to press. Oddly, it didn’t affect all recordings and even with those it did the result was so compelling that it didn’t seem to matter too much. 

It became clear that this is a very revealing loudspeaker indeed, yet it doesn’t have an obviously transparent and open balance like the Kii Three for instance. This is partly because Roon seems to have a bit of reinforcement in the bass, a characteristic that’s been apparent before but not to this extent, but also because this speaker has so much headroom that it makes everything seem effortless. It has that rare combination of precision and a relaxed presentation, which is utterly addictive. You can hear right into recordings and play them as loud as you like without any sense of discomfort, it’s almost dangerous from a hearing preservation point of view. I loved the cavernous soundstage it delivered on a DSD rip of La Folia[Atrium Musicae De Madrid, Gregorio Paniagua, Harmonia Mundi], the percussion on this sounds so real it’s uncanny and the big recorder (a tenor I think) is truly fabulous, the whole ensemble of baroque instruments bursting with life and tonal colour.

On Hooker’n’Heat[John Lee Hooker with Canned Heat, Liberty] the energy and presence of the band in the studio is palpable and Hooker’s vocal is striking in its visceral realism. This is virtual reality no doubt about it. The 8c in this networked arrangement goes a long way to fulfilling the promise of digital audio. It’s been a long time coming, but finally, we are getting hardware that genuinely bridges the gap between the studio and the home; this is almost ‘reach out and touch it’ real. With a more up to date release, Black Focus by Yussef Kamaal [Brownswood Recordings], that features keyboards, drums, and bass on a sixties jazz tip the sound is positively magical through this system. Some of the credit must go to the Innuos Zenith SE server providing the data (you can’t get out what isn’t being put in), but few DAC/amp/speaker combos have got this close to realising its potential.

Given that the 8c’s also have analogue inputs I hooked these up with some long runs of balanced cable and put the more than capable AURALiC ARIES G2 and Chord DAVE DAC between server and speakers. The result here was very respectable indeed. Astral Weeks[Van Morrison, Warner Bros] sounded glorious thanks to more muscular bass that reflects the character of the DAC and which suits this slightly lean recording. If you hadn’t heard the networked set up it would make for very rewarding listening indeed but there was still the allure of the direct digital connection.

To run the 8c with a more conventional digital connection, you connect one speaker to your streamer or CD player’s AES/EBU (XLR) output and hook that speaker to the next with a second AES/EBU cable, finally an XLR terminator needs to be put in the ‘thru’ socket of the second channel. Then you use the selector switch on the back to tell each speaker whether it’s the left or right channel. Hopefully, by then, you will also have ‘grouped’ the two channels on Lanspeaker, which will give the ability to control volume and other parameters for both channels simultaneously. This sounds complicated, but is firstly the dealer’s job and secondly really not that difficult unless you break the unwritten law and use a 192kHz track as your first choice: at present this connection system is limited to 96kHz maximum sample rate, but this is due for an update in future. 


The result with this connection is in a similar league to the Ethernet/Roon approach, fabulously immediate and very, very revealing. I put on a favourite Haydn Quartet and I was mesmerised by the melody alone. Loudspeakers like this are a distraction but in an extremely good way. Dutch & Dutch is to be congratulated for doing such a complex job so well. If you want to hear the future of high fidelity, grab yourself an audition forthwith.


Type: Three-way, four-driver, stand-mount speaker with active DSP drive and partially sealed enclosure with acoustic cardioid midrange

Driver complement: One 25mm alloy dome tweeter; one 203mm alloy cone midrange driver; two high excursion 203mm alloy bass drivers

Crossover frequencies: 100Hz, 1.25kHz

Frequency response: 30Hz-20kHz anechoic. Flat to 20Hz in room 

Amplifier output: 500W LF, 250W MF, 250W HF

Input sensitivity: Not specified

Dimensions (H×W×D): 485 ×270 ×380mm

Protection: None

Weight: 26kg/each

Finishes: White/natural, black/natural, black/brown, black/black

Price: £9,000/pair

Manufacturer: Dutch & Dutch




UK representative: Ultimate Stream


Tel: +44(0)1252 759285


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